Stock Market Correction or Crash?

Is what happened this week just a correction to a booming market with excessively high stock price valuations, or is it the beginning of a stock market crash?

Experts are scrambling to understand what’s happening but while we’re waiting why not jump in and analyze this while we’re waiting? Sound like a plan?

At this point, the depressing culprit seems to be the persistent announcement of the Fed interest rate hikes. It’s almost a papparazzi thing now. However, when those comments are fed into AI trading bots algorithms, it might become contagion for other markets.

The market correction on the Dow, Nasdaq, S&P, FTSE and TSX isn’t over it seems.

In early February, the US stock markets including the Dow Jones, NASDAQ, and the S&P fell 5% to 10%. The Dow plummeted 1600 on Monday the worst single day correction in its history.

Will this persistent volatility on the DOW, NASDAQ, S&P, FTSE, and TSX become a contagion that affects other markets such as the housing markets? People used the big loss day on Monday as a marker, but perhaps tomorrow will be a new marker?

As an investor, do you need to know the causes of the volatility and correction? Right now, the market has recovered and the US dollar is gaining strength. Yet trade deal turbulence could cause a wobble in global markets. The world is still dependent on the US economy.

Will there be a housing crash in 2018/2019? Jobs are up, but consumer mood is at a 6 month low.

Investors are nervous. Experts believe the stock correction was due to Fed Interest rate intentions (are they really fighting inflation?), or ETFs or AI guided trading bots. Since there was no emotion before the mini crash last Friday, it appears the slide was quietly caused by AI trading bots working for large funds.

This post delves briefly into the theory and factors involved in market crashes, corrections and selloffs including government meddling and AI systems (Note: even the people who make Artificial intelligence and self-learning algorithms have admitted they don’t understand how the AI systems make decisions. They learn and make decisions independent of human input and may not be able to report to humans how and why they acted).

As time passes and bots do more of the trading, investors are left with fewer clues as to what is moving the markets and when it’s time to get out. That fear could lead to panic selling next time.

Global stock markets were deeply impacted in the last few days, letting everyone know that markets are connected, even the housing market.

The TSX dropped another 271, and NASDAQ is down 273 points on the day. It’s been more than a correction or sell off, and looking more like a mini-crash is under way. CNBC’s Jim Cramer is calling it a “Flash Crash.”

Largest intraday point drop for Dow in history from CNBC.

The price of oil and CAD vs USD exchange rate has dropped significantly as well. It’s an interestign time for forex brokers and foreign exchange forecasts.

Housing is great too, although amid the housing market predictions is some worry of a serious housing crash.

Lately, the mood has been so positive that investors are gladly ponying up big money for stocks. It’s difficult for anyone to visualize the perils of an overly positive mindset — Euphoria. Are we in the housing euphoria bubble?

Stock price rises will continue in 2018, however, when and how will this amazing bull market end? Lets take a good look at the issue without any counterbalancing rhetoric which prevents us from digging in and exploring the stock market crash mechanisms and theories.

The Dow, S&P and NasDaq all hit new record highs in 2017 and stock valuations are very high, perhaps too high to justify. The recent volatility of bitcoin might be worth mentioning because a few are suggesting it cause trouble for the stock markets. Many investors don’t seem to know what bitcoin is worth.

And given how complex markets, businesses, and computer trading is, investors really don’t know what could happen.

Will the Market Bubble Collapse?

Some experts suggest a stock market bubble is about to burst sometime between now and 2020. Other forecasters refer to government reactions and politicies as the key determinant or crash factor. You’ll hear them in the videos below.

Some even point to the fact that Warren Buffet is sitting on a mountain of cash rather than holding stock. And his stock market indicator is pointing to a crash.

As you’ll see in Tony Robbins prediction video below, people will make money on the market crash (including those selling short). And others will lose everything. Let’s look at the prospect of a stock market crash and hear from experts.

Could we say this crash will be like a series of wobbly dominoes that begin falling, while overconfident officials feel they can reach out and stop the crashing tiles?

Some are looking at the housing market as ripe for a crash. There’s been persistent rumors of crashes in Miami, Denver, Seattle, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Toronto and Vancouver up in Canada. Yet none of these markets could crash easily. The economy is okay and there are too many people who need homes.

Too Much Overvaluation, Optimism and Growth?

Some experts cite the euphoria of stock markets during their bull runs. They suggest the heightened unrealistic expectations create a platform for disaster and when reality strikes, truth launches panicked sell offs. Some say the overvalued stocks, economy, and general optimism present right is a sure predecessor of a crash. It may have been that way in 1987.

Stock values have reached levels not seen since those two disasters and a correction would throw the world economy – currently seeing an ongoing boom period – into disarray — news report.

Stock prices and housing prices have ridden on a tide of low interest rates, demographic changes, government stimulation, foreign trade, technology, and more. At the end of a long business cycle, consumers are satiated. But do consumers have all they want? Are investors ready to leave US stock markets for gold and currency?

What do the Historical Stock Timeline Charts Say?

This chart of the S&P index shows market crashes are uncommon.

Chart courtesy of http://directorblue.blogspot.ca

Economic indicators are traditionally used to identify potential crashes. Check out these top 6. Are investors so optimistic that economic data can be disregarded?

Graphic courtesy of Yahoo Finance – DJI up to 2018 Graphic courtesy of Yahoo Finance – NASDAQ up to 2018

Is What Happened in Previous Market Collapses Relevant?

Bearish experts will rely on history, and history likely will side with a crash outcome between 2018 and 2020.

The following day, Black Tuesday, was a day of chaos. Forced to liquidate their stocks because of margin calls, overextended investors flooded the exchange with sell orders. The Dow fell 30.57 points to close at 230.07 on that day. The glamour stocks of the age saw their values plummet. Across the two days, the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 23% – from Wikipedia

Panic – Where Reasoning Disappears

Panic emotions of investors and government leaders is the X Factor. Today, markets are driven by computer algorithms that act faster, and still ultimately controlled by emotional humans. If you’ve ever seen a stampede, you probably can visualize the events in 1929. Some are thinking that computer aided panic is what might happen.

Thursday marks the 30th anniversary of ‘Black Monday’ market crash from CNBC.

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Make sure your friends and family have a good lock on the economy and markets. These are scary times ahead.

AI Systems may Panic without Emotion

Artificial intelligence systems, trading algorithms, or AI predictive programs may even be more prone to panic because their actions are actually irrational. They’ll sell lightning fast without any reference to long term value.

When panic hits, the AI systems may become almost useless, other than predicting which stocks will crash slower.
In fact, such AI algorithms are so complex, the programmers can’t figure out how the AI systems are making their decisions. AI systems can’t describe why they make their decisions either.

The AI systems are increasingly autonomous, taking cues from market activity yet not really knowing what the activity means on a human emotional level. AI systems don’t really understand the human element of international trade and politics. Geopolitical risk is a major factor today.

If thinking about a US stock market crash is too difficult to visualize, you might consider selling soon. Getting greedy is one additional sign of irrational thinking that’s driving stock markets and housing markets currently.

Housing markets are key because real estate has been driving the economy for awhile. A bursting housing bubble could launch the landslide that takes down the stock markets.

Seriously, Could US Stock Markets Crash?

All positive economic cycles generally end with some sort of rapid descent, just like a roller coaster. That descent at the end is the rush out just like a stampede. It’s completely desperate and irrational.

Long term, everything returns to the equilibrium point. The stock market crash is the point where investors lose all confidence and decide to pull their money out pronto. Sell, Sell, Sell.

As a million dollar home owner or prospective buyer, you’re wondering when this record long economic boom will end.

An important signal is desperate buyers jumping into the housing market at excessively inflated prices, overly indebted and leveraged, they fall hard when the panic button gets pushed.

Cheap Financing Overcomes a Blocking of Housing Supply

When governments prohibit land development, it makes home prices rocket. More millennials wanting/needing homes, high immigration, rising income, low interest rates, cheap mortgages all together create the drive to buy a home.

Big money chases few homes, and when governments persist in stopping or not supporting land development, speculators become more confident prices will rise further.

Then a politician steps in with their solution, at the end of the business cycle where employent and profits will begin to drop. Speculators/investors pull out fast, and the slide begins.

Will the Housing Market Collapse Too?

Home prices are now around record levels, but there is low unemployment, low mortgage rates, and a huge population hoping to own. That’s desperation. Enter cheap financing companies giving buyers a hope at ownership, just like 2007, and a housing market collapse.

President Trump’s recent tax revamp is going to extend the cycle for sure. Yet that provides more time for the “crash factors” to form like clouds on a beautiful sunny day.

Business cycles form just like cold weather fronts over the prairies. They end in storms.

Have a read of Wikipedia’s description of market cycles and the various theories of why markets collapse and you’ll be more certain that they could indeed happen. From MIT’s inverse cubic power law, to chaos theory, researchers focus on the mathematical and technical elements.

The research on investor/debtor mimicry is worth a read too.

People follow each other blindly like they were tailgating each other on a high speed highway. If anything happens, there’s going to be a chain reaction crash.

The way the expert describe mimicry however makes it look like everyone abandoning ship so are they mimicking others, or just jumping off the ship at the same time? However, the fact investors simply copy others buying and investing behaviors makes the abandonment more likely.

The research suggests mimicry was present in most stock market crashes and housing crashes. The predictive behavior is nervousness about the market, followed by mimicry, followed by panic. That panic could be set off by anything because of investor/owner anxiety.

Let’s say Warren Buffet sells a huge array of stocks suddenly. That combined with news about an impending war, poor jobs report, and fast rising interest rates, could be all it takes.

None of the research however, seems to be applied to human expectations, human happiness, and human panic. Human’s don’t pay attention to historical trends and data, nor what AI systems advise. They generally pay attention to now just like herding animals before a stampede. The signal that sets the herd off, could be one or two animals stumbling over a pothole.

The final analysis would reveal that people sell stocks and housing when they believe strongly the market is heading down. That’s when the wealthy and speculative investors check out en masse.

With stock market prices and housing prices at record highs, even uneducated investors and home owners would be vulnerable to bad news and false outlooks.

Tony Robbins Predictions on the Market

Tony Robbins explains why this Stock market crash could be the single best opportunity of your lifetime.

The major media networks might exaggerate some financial, political and consumer facts an launch a slide. The general consensus of Internet users driven by a Facebook/Twitter/Instagram mentality could easily exaggerate threats.

Major geopolitical actions might actually mean nothing materially for the markets, but if interpreted otherwise, it could start a slide that governments couldn’t stop.

In this video, Peter Schiff talks about government action being the key thing to predict a stock market slide.

The latest theory of RR Reversal has it that all markets suffer a pullback of 10 to 40%. So empirical data and events are the basis of future action.

Given the success of political correctness, fake news, and social media pressure, it’s not hard to see a big pull back driven by emotional investors and buyers. That could launch political reaction which magnifies the issue.

As good as prognosis the US economy has, there are a lot of human emotional factors that could launch a recession.
Let’s not forget that we’re a long way into this business cycle. The end is surely in sight. While not everyone is satiated and ready to stop spending, many wealthy people are.

The wealthy have unusually powerful vote about trends. When they pull out of the economy, that news will be heard by AI systems and human investment advisors.
When the panic button gets pushed this time, it will be the shock wave before the tsunami.

Even if we turn everything over to artificial intelligence systems, our global economy is new. The AI systems are seeing a new environment with new players. Chinese buyers and investors think differently than US bankers or European politicians. And a herd of 1.5 billion panickers is a scary thought.

Given the battle between Trump and his enemies, it’s an emotional environment that fuels income for news media. As you know, they need sensationalism to pay their bills. That smoke screen is enough to keep people off balance and insensitive to the real investment issues. At some point, in emotional confusion, the stampede could take place.

Most forecasting models don’t go beyond 2020 or 2024, and that in itself might give you pause for thought. The fact that investors, homebuyers, and corporations can’t visualize 2 years ahead is worrisome, especially since experts have access to all the data.

Too many forecasters, economists, and business people look at data, but is data just a false cue and where everyone reacts too late?

Screen capture courtesy of CNBC

Robert Shiller himself isn’t alarmed at the CASE ratio. He suggests that investors diversify their investments. That would help allay panic type behavior.

The Stock Market Crash Acelerators and Signals

Paying attention to economic changes and other signals could give you forewarning of what could happen from 2018 to 2020. If relying solely on professional stock market experts and news stories would not be wise. As the overall indicators move relentlessly high, it might provide a clear signal that market is cresting, and will head back down to equilibrium.

One clear signal might be excess in demand which draws money and government reaction.

Here’s a BIG list of housing market crash factors to look for:

stock prices at record levels
government passes complicated new tax bills that confuse and make investors uncertain
geopolitical events disturb international trade relationships and flow of goods/money
inflation and wages rise faster
housing prices peak
consumer product surpluses
natural end of a long business cycle
stock price to earnings ration too high (Shiller Pace is above 30)
misery index rises (unemployent rate + inflation rate)
the NAAIM index is too high (professional investors optimism)
growing market fear that may induce panic (investment advisors, market experts, bloggers)
assets have peaked in profit performance and wealthy begin to unload
too much consumer debt combined with risky investments (housing) and rising unemployment
corporate-Equities-to-GDP Ratio
accidental or emotional timing of government fiscal events (China preventing funds exodus)
key corporate failures in financial sector (bank, mortgage company, investment firm)

When do you think this current bull run in the markets will end? Will it be soft or a loud crash?

Note: The statements and information presented in this post is not intended as professional investment advice. It is solely an exploration of stock investing and the risks, perils, and behavior of stock markets and the economy. No one should rely on a single source of information or a single stock market and investing professional’s advice. The overall message of the post might be to diversify stock, real estate, and cash/gold holdings as a hedge against stock market crashes. Investors should look into hedging strategies but be aware that even hedging may provide limited protection from a crash.

Where to Invest in 2018 – Real Estate, Stocks, Gold or Cash?

Looking ahead to 2017 and wondering where to invest? US stock markets have had a fantastic run the last 6 years, with the DJ hitting 20,000. But is this the end of it?

baldeaglesmall — Photo courtesy of baldeagleinfo.com

The real estate market had a sharp rise these last few years, but has it topped out too? Could they both crash or soar like an eagle? We know the past, but how are we on forecasting the future?

Choosing between property or stocks might seem like choosing between wine or cheese, ice cream or pizza, or, tofu or sushi, but after you read this post, you might find that one is more financially nutritious than the other. And if both markets crash in 2017, well, if you buy a house or property, you still have something!

To ensure you make a good investment decision, you can read up on the advantages of buying real estate, to whet your appetite for the interesting video interview with investing guru Grant Cardone at bottom.

Like most real estate investors or stock market investors, you’re wanting to beat the averages and pull off a big win in 2017. And who can blame you? If you’re open minded and smart, you might double or triple the ROI anyone else is earning. This post not investment advice but rather a wake up to the strength of real property in the best zip codes.

Let’s take a quick look at real estate investment opportunities which might produce exception returns in 2017 compared to the stock market of 2017, which has pretty well peaked.

realestatevsstockmarket — Screen Capture courtesy of thescallingroup.com

US Stock Market Forecast 2017

“For 2017, J.P. Morgan anticipates geopolitical risk stemming from Europe and the Middle East as well as questions surrounding the new policies from Donald Trump’s presidency will permeate markets. Still, the firm also estimated in the report that the S&P 500 Index will surge 8% to 2,400 by the end of 2017. A stronger U.S. dollar and higher rates pose risks for stocks in 2017, as these factors can affect price-to-earnings ratios, emerging markets, the housing market, and U.S. equity groups such as multinational, domestic manufacturing, and bond proxy companies, according to JPMorgan. – from a report on the WSJ.com.

chipjoanna — Screen Capture courtesy of Magnoliamarket.com

Where are the Best Opportunities and Cities to Invest in Real Estate in 2017?

If you read my post on the best US cities for real estate investing, you know that some cities offer a 30% return right off the bat. Choosing the right city is a big part of the profit equation especially if you’re modest investor. The other parts are which specific types of properties to pursue, whether there’s plenty of millennial buyers in the area, and which types of upgrades bring the best return.

Home flippers will want to choose single detached homes especially where there is an income apartment built in to the property. Is San Francisco or New York or Los Angeles or Waco a good bet for a solid flip? Ask Chip and Joanna as I’m sure they know that market well enough. For other markets, there are sources so don’t shy away from a little research.

Pick all the right property buying variables intelligently, and you raise the likelihood of making a lot of money on your investment. Take a good look at rental income properties in Los Angeles, San Jose, Bay area and San Francisco simply due to the persistent high apartment rentals prices. It doesn’t look like there is a solution for that overheated market. With no new construction, current rents can only go higher.

Is Stock Market Investment a Good Choice?

Take a look at how the Dow Jones has fared since January of 2015. If it wasn’t for the recent Trump bump up, the market barely progressed. And the stock markets were all aglow about record prices. Well, they also said Trump would ruin them. After a lot of turbulence, it looks like investors believe Trump will be good for all the big corporations and perhaps economic growth in the US.

The stock markets are at all time highs with nowhere to go. The percentage gain on current prices will not be good. Of course, you may find specific stocks to gamble in high growth industries, but it all seems like roulette to me. Contrast that with real property in some of the hottest upcoming cites and what you could do with that property and now you have incredible potential for profit. And could all those people on HGTV be wrong?

The Trump rally will continue into the early part of 2017, then drop off as the Fed hikes interest rates more than the market expects and sentiment shifts, Goldman Sachs predicts in its forecast for the coming year — Goldman Sachs

And here in the last 12 months on the Nasdaq, we’re seeing flat growth in prices. If Trump hadn’t won the election, we would be seeing a flat line right across into 2017. If the Trump euphoria wears off and he can’t create the economic results he says are possible, you might see this curve heading back down to the 4500 mark. Personally, I think Trump’s efforts will provide much improvement, but that improvement might be more visible in the real estate market. That’s why in 2017, investing in real estate is where everyone is headed. That transfer of cash to the property sector should create some stellar returns. Discovering the best cities to invest in is half the battle.

Has any small investor ever gotten rich off of dividends?

So the tale of the stock market curve is really all you need to know.

Another important benefit of investing in real property, especially for house flippers, is that you’re more personally and emotionally engaged in the process and outcome. Stock market investing is passive and you can do nothing to help the performance and ROI. With real property, you are able to find ways to help yourself succeed. Wether it’s flipping or living in an income rental property, you can effect the performance of that investment. Let’s hope you make the right decisions and hire the right people!

Hear what Grant Cardone says about real estate marketing for next year.

Further resources on stocks vs real estate:

thebalance.com/making-money-from-real-estate-investing-357984

inman.com/2016/11/22/zillows-6-predictions-for-the-2017-housing-market-under-trump/

Is this the right year to invest in rental income property? Find out more about the best investments in 2017 including investing in real estate and investing in the top real estate zip codes.

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